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racist liberty place monument
by matt Tuesday, Jun. 01, 2004 at 3:47 PM
mtoups@indymedia.org

Anti-Nazi messages are written on the "Liberty Monument" near Canal Place in New Orleans. The monument honors the White League members who died in an 1874 armed attack against the integrated Reconstruction government of Louisiana.

racist liberty place...
racist_liberty_monument_1.jpg, image/jpeg, 444x700

David Duke had planned a rally to occur at this monument on Sunday, May 30th but the event was cancelled, possibly due to the actions taken against the monument. The monument commemorates the deaths of militant racists' attempts to suppress the participation of blacks in post-Civil War Louisiana government. The monument has long been reviled as a celebration of the militant racists in the White League.

The "Battle of Liberty Place" has been called the largest street fight in American history; 3500 White League members faced 3600 New Orleans police and black militia.

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"fuck off nazi scum"
by matt Tuesday, Jun. 01, 2004 at 3:47 PM
mtoups@indymedia.org

"fuck off nazi ...
racist_liberty_monument_2.jpg, image/jpeg, 600x449

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wide shot
by matt Tuesday, Jun. 01, 2004 at 3:47 PM
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wide shot...
racist_liberty_monument_wide.jpg, image/jpeg, 601x399

Behind the monument is the Aquarium of the Americas on the Mississippi river.

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Mrs.
by Ellen Williams Sunday, Jun. 20, 2004 at 4:35 AM

The reporter's bias is VERY evident in the account of the vandalizing of this monument. This is a Hate Crime, but will never be prosecuted as such because ONLY WHITE PEOPLE ARE GUILTY OF HATE CRIMES, and this was evidently a crime against a monument to white people. Whites are NOT supposed to resist when they are attacked as an ethnic group.

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The Demographics of Liberty
by rich white man Friday, Jun. 25, 2004 at 5:32 PM

...In the February issue of Liberty, we published a summary of the new survey's findings about libertarian opinion and belief, along with an analysis of the results. In this issue, we turn to the demographics of libertarians.

As in 1988, we learned that most libertarians are male, white, heterosexual, monogamous, married, well-educated, with fairly high income. They are mostly first-born. Most were raised in a religious environment, but do not consider themselves to be religious today. They are more likely to work in technical fields or in private business than most Americans, and far less likely to be government employees.

Here are some of the questions we asked, along with the responses:

Are you male or female?
..................1988......1998
male..........95%.......90%
female.........5%.......10%

What is your race?
..................1988......1998
white........100%.......95%
other.............0%.........5%

What is your annual income?
(thousands.......1988.......1998
$100+...................5%..........20%
$50-100.............26%..........32%
$30-50...............26%..........20%
$20-30...............14%..........14%
$10-20...............14%............8%
$10 or less........16%............6%

Were you ever in the military?
..................1988......1998
Yes.............27%......33%
No...............73%......67%

Was your highest rank enlisted or officer?
(Question only asked to those with military experience.)
..................1988......1998
enlisted.....88%......35%
officer.........12%......65%

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???
by Racist White man making less than 20K a year Sunday, Jun. 27, 2004 at 10:40 AM

What the fuck does the demographic by Rich White man have to do with the goddamn grafitti on the Battle of Liberty Place monument? Focus, people, focus!!!

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Historical Perspective
by Porcupine Monday, Nov. 22, 2004 at 8:24 AM

The Liberty Monument
In New Orleans stands what for most persons is an obscure monument to an obscure incident. The Liberty Monument celebrates the 1874 Battle of Liberty Place, described by an admiring local historian as "The Overthrow of Carpet-Bag Rule in New Orleans -- September 14, 1874." Members of the appropriately named White League engaged in the violent overthrow of the existing Louisiana government, composed of an alliance of Republican whites and newly enfranchised African-Americans. Thirty-two lives were lost on both sides, with about three times that many persons injured. The ousted administration of Republican Governor Kellogg was in fact reinstated by force of federal arms, but it was only a matter of time until the Compromise of 1877 resulted in full-scale restoration of conservative white rule as sought by the White League, with attendant consequences for the future of African-Americans.
Immediately following the battle, with the partisans of the White League in apparent control of the state (of which New Orleans was then the capital), the New Orleans Daily Picayune saluted the downfall of the Kellogg regime (which, in the words of the editors, had "collapsed at one touch of honest indignation and gallant onslaught") and called for the erection of a memorial to the eleven whites who had died in behalf of the insurgency. The New Orleans City Council formally agreed in November 1882, when it passed an ordinance renaming the area of the battle as "Liberty Place" and authorizing the erection of a monument "in honor of those who fell in defense of liberty and home rule in that heroic struggle of the 14th of September, 1874." By 1891 these hopes were realized with the construction of an obelisk near the Mississippi River at the foot of Canal Street, a principal street in the city. (New Orleans had seven years earlier erected a giant monument to Robert E. Lee that continues to preside, entirely unobscurely, over Lee Circle.) The Liberty Monument included the names of those White Leaguers who gave their lives in attacking the hated mixed-race government, as well as the names of some of the League leaders. According to Judith Kelleher Schafer, a leading historian of the incident, the 1891 dedication of the monument initiated what became a yearly parade thereafter each September 14, with suitable wreath-laying ceremonies to honor the civic heroes.
Lest anyone unaccountably fail to get the intended message, the city, using artisans supplied by the federally funded Works Progress Administration, added in 1934 two plaques setting out the official version of events. On one side of the base was chiseled, "United States troopers took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election in November 1876 recognized white supremacy and gave us our state." On the opposite side appeared, "McEnery and Penn, having been elected governor and lieutenant governor by the white people, were duly installed by the overthrow of the carpetbag government, ousting the usurpers Gov. Kellogg (white) and Lt. Gov. Antoine (colored)."
As one might well expect, the Liberty Monument has remained a source of controversy in New Orleans, especially as African-Americans have become a dominant political force in the city. In 1974, for example, Mayor Moon Landrieu agreed to the placement near the monument of a brass plaque describing the battle as an "insurrection" and noting that the controversial language carved on its base had not in fact been part of the original 1891 monument. Most important, no doubt, was the plaque's additional message that "the sentiments expressed are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans," a statement itself raising delicious political and philosophical questions. Is New Orleans an entity that can have a "philosophy and beliefs," and, if so, how precisely does one identify what they are, or who is authorized to speak performatively as to their content? One wonders also if it is possible that the statement, whatever its accuracy at the time of installation, was chiefly designed to create the consciousness that it purports to describe. In any event, there is no doubt that New Orleans adopted an overtly tutelary role in attempting to limit somewhat the pernicious consequences of the Liberty Monument, lest the citizens be tempted to treat the words chiseled upon it as an authoritative enunciation of the meaning of the event that was, after all, being commemorated.
When Ernest Morial became the first black mayor of the city in 1981, he attempted to remove the monument, but was stopped from doing so by the majority white City Council, which forbade the moving of any monuments without its consent. (Does the Council therefore merit an award for fending off the forces of censorship?) The Council did, however, authorize the removal of any offensive wording on the monument (so maybe it doesn't deserve an award after all). Smooth granite slabs were then placed over the 1934 additions, presumably obviating the need for the plaque's renunciatory sentiments.
During the late 1980s the administration of a second black mayor, Sidney Barthelemy, tried to remove the monument permanently from view during the course of general riverfront reconstruction, when it had been taken down from its Canal Street location. However, an interesting alliance of traditionalists, historical preservationists, and white supremacists successfully blocked the effort. Nevertheless, the monument was ultimately moved from its original spot to a decidedly more obscure setting about a block away, where it now languishes out of the sight of most of the tourists who crowd Canal Street and its fine shops, casinos, municipal aquarium, and vistas of the Mississippi. It remains in the area at all only because of a consent agreement between the City and the State Historic Preservation Officer, based on federal historic preservation laws, that the monument remain in the general vicinity of the battle.
Once again, though, the "official" story changed, for now there was yet another large plaque placed on the monument itself: "In honor of those Americans on both sides of the conflict who died in the Battle of Liberty Place. A conflict of the past that should teach us lessons for the future." What these lessons are is left wholly unarticulated. The voice of the tutor is quite muffled, leaving the monument to "speak for itself." We may reasonably wonder if this really represents progress over the 1974 point-and-counterpoint between the chiseled words on the base of the monument and the revisionist plaque, an exchange that at least educated the careful reader as to the ideological stakes behind the ascription of meaning to the Liberty Monument.

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Historical Perspective
by porcupine Monday, Nov. 22, 2004 at 10:20 AM

The Liberty Monument in New Orleans stands what for most persons is an obscure monument to an obscure incident. The Liberty Monument celebrates the 1874 Battle of Liberty Place, described by an admiring local historian as "The Overthrow of Carpet-Bag Rule in New Orleans -- September 14, 1874." Members of the appropriately named White League engaged in the violent overthrow of the existing Louisiana government, composed of an alliance of Republican whites and newly enfranchised African-Americans. Thirty-two lives were lost on both sides, with about three times that many persons injured. The ousted administration of Republican Governor Kellogg was in fact reinstated by force of federal arms, but it was only a matter of time until the Compromise of 1877 resulted in full-scale restoration of conservative white rule as sought by the White League, with attendant consequences for the future of African-Americans.

Immediately following the battle, with the partisans of the White League in apparent control of the state (of which New Orleans was then the capital), the New Orleans Daily Picayune saluted the downfall of the Kellogg regime (which, in the words of the editors, had "collapsed at one touch of honest indignation and gallant onslaught") and called for the erection of a memorial to the eleven whites who had died in behalf of the insurgency. The New Orleans City Council formally agreed in November 1882, when it passed an ordinance renaming the area of the battle as "Liberty Place" and authorizing the erection of a monument "in honor of those who fell in defense of liberty and home rule in that heroic struggle of the 14th of September, 1874." By 1891 these hopes were realized with the construction of an obelisk near the Mississippi River at the foot of Canal Street, a principal street in the city. (New Orleans had seven years earlier erected a giant monument to Robert E. Lee that continues to preside, entirely unobscurely, over Lee Circle.) The Liberty Monument included the names of those White Leaguers who gave their lives in attacking the hated mixed-race government, as well as the names of some of the League leaders. According to Judith Kelleher Schafer, a leading historian of the incident, the 1891 dedication of the monument initiated what became a yearly parade thereafter each September 14, with suitable wreath-laying ceremonies to honor the civic heroes.

Lest anyone unaccountably fail to get the intended message, the city, using artisans supplied by the federally funded Works Progress Administration, added in 1934 two plaques setting out the official version of events. On one side of the base was chiseled, "United States troopers took over the state government and reinstated the usurpers but the national election in November 1876 recognized white supremacy and gave us our state." On the opposite side appeared, "McEnery and Penn, having been elected governor and lieutenant governor by the white people, were duly installed by the overthrow of the carpetbag government, ousting the usurpers Gov. Kellogg (white) and Lt. Gov. Antoine (colored)."

As one might well expect, the Liberty Monument has remained a source of controversy in New Orleans, especially as African-Americans have become a dominant political force in the city. In 1974, for example, Mayor Moon Landrieu agreed to the placement near the monument of a brass plaque describing the battle as an "insurrection" and noting that the controversial language carved on its base had not in fact been part of the original 1891 monument. Most important, no doubt, was the plaque's additional message that "the sentiments expressed are contrary to the philosophy and beliefs of present-day New Orleans," a statement itself raising delicious political and philosophical questions. Is New Orleans an entity that can have a "philosophy and beliefs," and, if so, how precisely does one identify what they are, or who is authorized to speak performatively as to their content? One wonders also if it is possible that the statement, whatever its accuracy at the time of installation, was chiefly designed to create the consciousness that it purports to describe. In any event, there is no doubt that New Orleans adopted an overtly tutelary role in attempting to limit somewhat the pernicious consequences of the Liberty Monument, lest the citizens be tempted to treat the words chiseled upon it as an authoritative enunciation of the meaning of the event that was, after all, being commemorated.

When Ernest Morial became the first black mayor of the city in 1981, he attempted to remove the monument, but was stopped from doing so by the majority white City Council, which forbade the moving of any monuments without its consent. (Does the Council therefore merit an award for fending off the forces of censorship?) The Council did, however, authorize the removal of any offensive wording on the monument (so maybe it doesn't deserve an award after all). Smooth granite slabs were then placed over the 1934 additions, presumably obviating the need for the plaque's renunciatory sentiments.

During the late 1980s the administration of a second black mayor, Sidney Barthelemy, tried to remove the monument permanently from view during the course of general riverfront reconstruction, when it had been taken down from its Canal Street location. However, an interesting alliance of traditionalists, historical preservationists, and white supremacists successfully blocked the effort. Nevertheless, the monument was ultimately moved from its original spot to a decidedly more obscure setting about a block away, where it now languishes out of the sight of most of the tourists who crowd Canal Street and its fine shops, casinos, municipal aquarium, and vistas of the Mississippi. It remains in the area at all only because of a consent agreement between the City and the State Historic Preservation Officer, based on federal historic preservation laws, that the monument remain in the general vicinity of the battle.

Once again, though, the "official" story changed, for now there was yet another large plaque placed on the monument itself: "In honor of those Americans on both sides of the conflict who died in the Battle of Liberty Place. A conflict of the past that should teach us lessons for the future." What these lessons are is left wholly unarticulated. The voice of the tutor is quite muffled, leaving the monument to "speak for itself." We may reasonably wonder if this really represents progress over the 1974 point-and-counterpoint between the chiseled words on the base of the monument and the revisionist plaque, an exchange that at least educated the careful reader as to the ideological stakes behind the ascription of meaning to the Liberty Monument.


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hi
by ddd Friday, Jan. 21, 2005 at 5:23 PM
fucku@hotmail.com 555-5555

nazi punks fuck off
your not religious
ur assholes
youre white trash
and im sorry for offending all the decent white people out there
but u know im right
as if they bult a momorial
they should die
yes
die

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NAZI
by Schindler1000 Sunday, Jun. 05, 2005 at 4:04 AM

FUCK NAZIS.

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Nazis
by WMD Thursday, Jul. 14, 2005 at 8:50 AM

the only good nazi is a dead nazi

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Hurrah
by me Monday, Oct. 24, 2005 at 1:02 PM
e fuck you

FUCK NAZIS AND NEO NAZIS. KEEP THE NAZIS OUT!



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reich-wing conservatives: OUT!
by Fed up and p*ssed Friday, Nov. 18, 2005 at 8:42 PM

We are tired of your shit, your hate and your discrimination. You came over here several hundreds of years ago, and spread your hate and bigotry, enslaved the native peoples, and people brought over from Africa, and infected all races with your
evil legacy. Rightwing conservatives are SCUM and don't deserve any respect. F*ck off and die, all of you!

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Mr.
by Bigot Saturday, Dec. 17, 2005 at 8:56 AM

The previous poster is an Indian, Negro, or idiot. No matter; the white people of the South made this country great. The liberal Northeasterners made it a place where the ignorant and criminals can have a leading voice in destroying good and upholding evil. The ignorant and criminals are incapable of articulating their viewpoints. They can only slander, curse, and display their sophmoric ideas. Only their own ilk will uphold them. Rational people avoid them like the intellectual plague they represent.

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Hitler
by White Saint Wednesday, Feb. 08, 2006 at 9:24 AM
whitesaint_clan@hotmail.com

HEIL HITLER,THE GREAT LEADER OF THE PURE ARYAN RACE! WHITE POWER SHULL CRUSH ALL YOU MUD SCUM!

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To white saint
by Not Sainted Will Thursday, Feb. 09, 2006 at 9:49 AM

I am a little curious about your choice of words and posting name.

The NAZIs seemed to work pretty hard at knocking down a number of religions, most talked about are the jews, but they smacked a bit on the christians too.

I was wondering, you chose the title 'white saint', while supporting a self proclaimed athiest group (the NAZI party)

Often it seems like a religion is only propped up by the state and individuals so long as it supports the that power structure, whether in the home or in government. Often when a government needs to make particular changes it will remove or shift religions around to do it. This has been seen throughout europe on a pretty regular basis, whether outlawing a religion to populate an over seas colony with its followers, or switching a nations religion to protect tax revenues, etc

So, Hitler pushed the ideas of 'no god' for his reasons, and used History, and Race as his validation of authority, claiming science to prove his points, and stepping outside of religious morality.

I am just wondering, why the use of 'White Saint'

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Mr
by Jew Wednesday, Mar. 01, 2006 at 2:37 AM

HAHAHA, that shit's funny. Dammit Nazi Scum.

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Hells Ya!
by Ferret Overlord Thursday, Mar. 09, 2006 at 4:36 PM

I couldn't think of a more suitable place for grafitti to appear, and that's some of the best illegal grafitti I've ever seen. Nazis are scum, and commemoration of such people that are near their cause is horrid.

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Pie slapped motherfucker
by Tidalz0rs Friday, Mar. 10, 2006 at 5:11 AM
sdhadsd POO FF

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Kill the nazis an white supremicists
by Nazi-killer Tuesday, Apr. 11, 2006 at 3:07 PM
1-800-Kill-Nazis FUCK YOU Rd.

All nazis die, kill them all, fuck the nazis you dirty skinhead bonerlicking motherfuckers you look fucking gay hitler killed himself cause he found out he was jewish okay? I hope that helps you realise how fucking dumb you are and and how fucked up you look asshole skinheads NO HONOR IS RACISM!

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white saint aint shit
by hitler sux shit Tuesday, Apr. 11, 2006 at 10:30 PM
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HITLER IS SUCH A PRICK IF HE WAS SO TUFF AND POWERFUL WHY DID HE USE GUNS AND SHIT HUH.
YALL PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK WHO WRITE SHIT LIKE HITLER RULZ AND AND STUFF LIKE THAT IF HE SO COOL HE DEAD.
F*** YALL RACIST PRICK.

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History Revamped
by Fearless Friday, Apr. 14, 2006 at 1:10 AM

My great-grandfather fought at Liberty Place, and at the time, there was no such thing as a Nazi. The Nazi party came some time later, on an entirely different continent. This monument has been a touchstone for every kind of racial aggro-ness and frenzied hype, and that's a shame. It's an important part of New Orleans history... just an inanimate hunk of stone shoved in a corner. Maybe we should just learn what we can about our city and ourselves through the stories it calls to mind, and maybe we should view those days through a lens of cultural understanding. Those were different days, and people had different values. They fought very passionately for their beliefs on both sides. Whether we subscribe to those beliefs is not as important as whether or not we understand the issues of the day, and how it relates to our world now.

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Sort of
by Will Friday, Apr. 14, 2006 at 10:40 PM

Well, sort of...

Some people did fight very hard for what they believed in, and the other people, well, the raped their adolescent slaves, beat them, murdered them around tax time, built breeding farms when it became too hard to import them anymore and generally proved beyond a shadow of a doubt how evil they were... the evil ones... they where white... FYI



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NAZI
by A True Brit Saturday, Apr. 22, 2006 at 9:15 PM

HEIL HITLER dont make me laugh... yes he was a good polition but he was not a good man...

And as for this graffti its a disgrace you should be ashamed of your selfs...

How bout i put nazi symbols on your grave stones when your dead you fucking scum bags...

Fuck you,

Regards...

P.S. White for White. Black for Black

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My Opinon
by Opinionated Man Sunday, May. 07, 2006 at 5:47 PM

I agree with a previous point... this statue is just a part of history and aulthough it does in a way represent 'white idealism' it still should be tolorated. As a Jewish man myself i refuse to see this vandelism as a form of social and racial progress, it just shows that intolorance still exists and stirs up 'bad blood'. The society we live in today is a far cry from the society that was present when the monument was erected. To the people who post on here proclaming their support of the Nazi's or Racial distaste... you are simply foolish little men who thanks to the evolution of society and the human race are slowly but surely aging and dying along with you ignorant outdated and antiquated views... rest assured that the future of this planet will be full of many different people... different colours, sexualities and religious beliefs and NOTHING can stop it. Excuse my terrible spelling but i'm a little tired!

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BK
by BK Monday, Jun. 05, 2006 at 5:19 PM

This is crazy. All you people are too loud.

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vandalism
by mezzanine Tuesday, Aug. 01, 2006 at 1:52 PM
mezzy_mezzy@hotmail.com

That's pure vandalism. Think.

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White League
by flanders Sunday, Aug. 06, 2006 at 8:43 AM

While Nazism and fascism as such didn't exist when the racist White League tried to overthrow the Republican government of Louisiana in 1874, there are some pretty clear analogies. In fact there's a case to be made that the White League was the world's first fascist movement. Like Hitler's group, it was made up of veterans from a losing army who just couldn't get their heads around the new social and political order--the Weimar Republic in Germany, Reconstruction in the South--and tried to overthrow it by force.

On the whole, I support the people who vandalized the monument. It's offensive for a city to memorialize racists who died trying to overthrow a genuinely democratic and representative government. Reconstruction was about the closest blacks in this country have ever come to having a real say in politics. New Orleans should tear down that thing and put up a memorial to the 25,000 black soldiers from Louisiana who fought for the Union.

The idea of white power lost in the Civil War. If it had won, we'd be living in an even more backwards and underdeveloped country than we already do. White power lost again in the 1960s. White power will keep losing because it's historically obsolete.

To the New Orleans anti-racist movement: keep up the good work.

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miss
by me Wednesday, Mar. 14, 2007 at 2:35 PM
none none 1106 7th st west

i think yall r trippin yall arent white!!!! u guys r italian french spanish indian arabic n all dta other crap cuz u dudes r mutts!!!!!!!!! >:0

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Typical Peckerwoods
by VereinigtEuch Wednesday, Jul. 18, 2007 at 12:15 PM

It's things like this that make me feel utterly ashamed to be white, but unbelievably happy to not have to put up with this Klansmen crap.
First off, the white nationalists among you are claiming that "fascism" and "nazism" didn't exist back then. True enough that the Nazi Party hadn't been formulated, but it is quite wrong to assume that ideas along those lines did not exist. After all, numerous KKK rallies have involved shouts of "sieg heil" and salutes Nazi-style, so clearly there was a base in the Confederate States for that kind of garbage.
Secondly, I can't help but respond to the highly dubious claim that "ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN COMMIT HATE CRIMES". Once again, a clear display of ignorance is shown, as there are numerous examples of black people being charged with hate crimes. Either your local paper (is it run by David Duke himself?) is not giving the full story, or you make assumptions that are convenient to your prejudicial notions about race relations. Even so, don't kid yourself into believing that white people don't commit crimes based on hate to a level far beyond that of what other races do.
Thirdly, I believe the libertarian statistics were included because libertarians are a bunch of racist, individualistic white bigots.
Fourthly, this monument indeed stands for something historical, but the fact of the matter is that it glorifies a part of history that involved lynch law and extremist hate. Not only was the graffiti justified, but it should have been dynamited. The Germans had a policy of "Vergangenheitsbewältigung", or "coming to terms with the past" (unlike fake neo-Nazi trash, I actually speak German). They have realized their errors and wish to rid their society of what remains. Give it a try some time, America.
Fifthly, and lastly, I just want to say a few truths to the White Nation - you know which one. It's our fault as white people that blacks, Hispanics, women and others are continually kept down in our society. Take a dab at history outside of what's been rewritten by subsequent Grand Wizards and you'll understand. Wake up and stop believing that the colour of our skin makes us any better or worse than another person, because truly it is your behaviour now that makes you and all white people look like miserably unrepentant children. The only reason colour still matters is because we haven't come to terms with our own past, so take a walk in other peoples' shoes for once.
Kill the Klan. Burn all Nazis.

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Nothing new under the sun
by Loner Saturday, Dec. 29, 2007 at 12:42 PM

Most of your posts reflect the fact that EVERYONE loves to hate some group or the other. What is so amusing to those of us who expect the worse from humanity is that the most self-righteous of you would be the first one stoning to death those who dare to have a different viewpoint. You are just as intolerant as the people you criticize. There will never be a time when all mankind will think and act the same. The only way we will exist in harmony is to let people live how they want as long as they don't hurt anyone else. What they think or feel is none of your business, if they are not harming someone else. In the end,you will win no converts if you are no better than your opposition.

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Three Cheers for Louisiana's Heros
by Southern Honor Saturday, Aug. 02, 2008 at 12:47 AM

This beautiful monument honors the Southern Independence the citizens of New Orleans fought and died to succeed. The Volunteers routed Longstree the cowardt and his Malungeon Militia.

Leave it up to the scum and trash of the earth to desecrate it. Leave it up to one little bastard who doesn't have any up-ringing to something like that.

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Three Cheers for Louisiana's Heros
by Southern Honor Saturday, Aug. 02, 2008 at 12:49 AM

This beautiful monument honors the Southern Independence the citizens of New Orleans fought and died to succeed. The Volunteers routed Longstree the cowardt and his Malungeon Militia.

Leave it up to the scum and trash of the earth to desecrate it. Leave it up to one little bastard who doesn't have any up-ringing to something like that.

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Three Cheers for Louisiana's Heros
by Southern Honor Saturday, Aug. 02, 2008 at 12:56 AM
whiteleague1874@1874.com 555-5555

This beautiful monument honors the Southern Independencethat the citizens of New Orleans fought and died to help succeed. The Volunteers routed Longstree the cowardt and his Malungeon Militia.

Leave it up to the scum and trash of the earth to desecrate it. Leave it up to one little bastard who doesn't have any up-ringing to something like that.

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American Redneck
by Bubba Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Bubba1@bubba.net 1-800-MUD-TRUK Gettysburg

I see words like Nazi, Fuck, White Trash, Shit and Asshole. But they don't nobody dare say Nigger do they. That'n got throwed out wif da mon-u-ment !!! The only word that'll git ya escorted off company property !!!

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no nazis in 1874
by WR Thursday, Feb. 16, 2012 at 4:19 AM

see my title, tard

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