Bush declares war on blacks : NOLA Indymedia

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Troops begin COMBAT OPERATIONS in New Orleans

By Joseph R. Chenelly
Times staff writer

NEW ORLEANS — Combat operations are underway on the streets “to take this city back” in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

“This place is going to look like Little SOMALIA,” Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard’s Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive citywide security mission from a staging area outside the Louisiana Superdome. “We’re going to go out and take this city back. This will be a combat operation to get this city under control.”

Jones said the military first needs to establish security throughout the city. Military and police officials have said there are several large areas of the city are in a full state of anarchy.

Dozens of military trucks and UP-ARMORED Humvees left the staging area just after 11 a.m. Friday, while hundreds more troops arrived at the same staging area in the city via Black Hawk and Chinook helicopters.

“We’re here to do whatever they need us to do,” Sgt. 1st Class Ron Dixon, of the Oklahoma National Guard’s 1345th Transportation Company. “We packed to stay as long as it takes.”

While some fight the INSURGENCY in the city, other carry on with rescue and evacuation operations. Helicopters are still pulling hundreds of stranded people from rooftops of flooded homes.

Army, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, Coast Guard and police helicopters filled the city sky Friday morning. Most had armed soldiers manning the doors. According to Petty Officer 3rd Class Jeremy Grishamn, a spokesman for the amphibious assault ship Bataan, the vessel kept its helicopters at sea Thursday night after several military helicopters reported being shot at from the ground.

Numerous soldiers also told Army Times that they have been shot at by armed civilians in New Orleans. Spokesmen for the Joint Task Force Headquarters at the Superdome were unaware of any servicemen being wounded in the streets, although one soldier is recovering from a gunshot wound sustained during a struggle with a civilian in the dome Wednesday night.

“I never thought that at a National Guardsman I would be shot at by other Americans,” said Spc. Philip Baccus of the 527th Engineer Battalion. “And I never thought I’d have to carry a rifle when on a hurricane relief mission. This is a disgrace.”

Spc. Cliff Ferguson of the 527th Engineer Battalion pointed out that he knows there are plenty of decent people in New Orleans, but he said it is hard to stay motivated considering the circumstances.

“This is making a lot of us think about not reenlisting.” Ferguson said. “You have to think about whether it is worth risking your neck for someone who will turn around and shoot at you. We didn’t come here to fight a war. We came here to help.”

I guess this makes more clear than ever the way in which the fascists in power have as their first priority the security of a capitalist class-based social system in which they occupy the highest ranks.

But their media will try to avoid this issues, they need to avoid the uprising that is necessary to stop this madness. And the worst is this reality that has been thrown upon us can be hidden again as websites like indymedia have a low reach, and as silence becomes the only word of those killed by our corporate genocidal governments. When are we to stop bitching and fight back?

It is rediculous to say that only the blacks loot. We see them in New Orleans only because NO is 67%black. If this was a LA Earthquake you would see lowlife whites and all out there looting. But regardless of color they should be stopped and if that means shooting them so be it. All color of looters, murderers and rapists should be eliminated.

looting is wrong how? why should basic life supporting products be kept locked up by business? why should people be left in refugee camps begging for money while the majority of the voting public in your country spent hundreds of billions of dollars acting out genocide on Muslims? perhaps this might lead you all to think about who you vote for and who you let control your lives.

they're declaring war on a race of people by going after certain members of that group who are preying upon their fellows. Question: Who is more likely to kill a black person? A white person, or another black person? Even Jesse Jackson knows the answer to that question.

HOW DARE THE NATIONAL GUARD TRY TO PUT AN END TO THE RAPING AND KILLING OF BLACK PEOPLE BY OTHER BLACK PEOPLE!!!

/some people are never happy...

Who are we to judge people who are fighting just to stay alive. I hope this situation wakes more people up to the real priorities of the US government, protecting the haves and not giving a shit about the have nots.

Nichole Gelinas

New Orleans hasn’t even been disarmed yet, but the story of those who looted, trashed, and terrorized the city this week is already being re-written. Al Sharpton went on MSNBC Thursday night to say that “looters are people who pay their taxes whose infrastructure caved in on them.” The final PC version of the story is likely to go like this: The desperate people left behind in New Orleans, nearly all black, had justification in brutally attacking their city because the help they frantically sought didn’t come.

In truth, the looters, rapists, and murderers who have terrorized New Orleans since Monday began their post-Katrina reign of terror a full day before the situation grew truly desperate—and it was their increasingly lawless behavior that kept willing but unarmed professional and volunteer rescue workers away from the city and from the poor people who needed saving.

Let’s go back to last Sunday morning—such a long time ago, it now seems. Most New Orleanians with means—the most resourceful poor, the middle class, and the affluent—left the city of nearly half-a-million residents that day, 24 hours before Katrina hit. They took planes, they drove, they hitchhiked, and some walked. Save for the home and business owners who valued their property more than their lives, most of the 100,000 or so who stayed behind were those not only poor in financial resources but in human capital as well.

Some who stayed behind are the New Orleanians who depend on the government on a good day—impoverished women, children, and elderly folks who went to the Superdome and to the Convention Center Sunday, expecting their government to take care of them. And those were the smart ones—those who moved rationally and proactively, despite a lack of transportation out of the city and a lack of government co-ordination, to secure their own physical safety. Thousands of others who stayed in their low-lying homes in the 9th Ward (which predictably flooded, as it flooded 40 years ago during Hurricane Betsy) drowned or now find themselves trapped—starved and dying of dehydration.

And the others who stayed behind, unfortunately, are those who terrorize New Orleans on a low-grade level on a good day—and have now taken over the stricken city. What’s happened is the predictable civil deterioration of a city whose fragile civil infrastructure can’t control or contain its core criminal class in peacetime.

Katrina didn’t turn innocent citizens into desperate criminals. This week’s looters (not those who took small supplies of food and water for sustenance, but those who have trashed, burned, and shot their way through the city since Monday) are the same depraved individuals who have pushed New Orleans’ murder rate to several multiples above the national average in normal times. (New Orleans, without Katrina, would have likely ended 2005 with 330 or so murders—compared to about 65 in Boston, a city roughly the same in size.) Today may not be the best day to get into New Orleans’ intractable crime problem, but it’s necessary, since it explains how this week’s communications and policing vacuum so quickly created a perfect storm for the vicious lawlessness that has broken out.

During the mid-1990s, New Orleans made some progress in cutting down its murder rate from its one-time peak as the Murder Capital of America. With the help of the feds, the city weeded out the worst of its police force (including two murderers) and implemented some new policing techniques borrowed from successful cities like New York, including COMSTAT. But New Orleans—and the state judicial system—has never cemented a sustainable institutional infrastructure to build on early progress, and the murder rate had risen perceptibly again.

New Orleans, first off, doesn’t have the middle-class or affluent tax base to afford the professional police or prosecution force it needs—crime has created a vicious cycle, pushing out taxpayers who fund the police. Nor have the city and state cemented the command-and-control direction of financial and human resources that police, detectives, and prosecutors need to do their jobs.

In New York, the mayor, police, and prosecutors know that taking one killer off the streets means preventing more killings, because a murderer frequently murders again. In New Orleans, killers and other violent criminals remain free, because in many cases, they aren’t arrested or tried; conviction rates remain abysmal. The lawlessness these criminals create in pockets of the city breeds more killers and more lawlessness. Witnesses and crime victims in the inner city fear to come forward: they know that even if a criminal winds up arrested, his associates will be free to intimidate them.

On a normal day, those who make up New Orleans’ dangerous criminal class—yes, likely the same African-Americans we see looting now—terrorize their own communities. Once in a while, a spectacular crime makes headlines—the shooting death of a tourist just outside the French Quarter, or the rape and murder of a Tulane student. But day in and day out, New Orleans’ black criminal class victimizes other blacks. Churches put up billboards in the worst neighborhoods that plead: “Thou shalt not kill.” The inner-city buses shuttle what look like hundreds of war veterans around the city—young black men, many of them innocent victims, paralyzed in wheelchairs.

This week, this entrenched criminal class has freely roamed the streets—and terrorized everyone. On Monday, New Orleans still had food and water stocked in stores across the city, but young looters began sacking stores, trashing the needed food and stealing TVs, DVDs, and other equipment. If the uncoordinated, understaffed New Orleans police had even a prayer of keeping order, it was Monday. By Tuesday, the looters had armed themselves with ample weapons supplies available in stores all across the city; by Wednesday, the armed gangs, out of food and water like everyone else, were not only viciously dangerous but desperate, hungry, and thirsty.

But while the looters have reportedly killed police offers and have shot at rescue workers, they’re mainly victimizing, as usual, other poor blacks. The vicious looters aren’t the face of New Orleans’ poor blacks. Their victims are: the thousands of New Orleanians who made their way to shelter before the storm, and who rescued others and brought them to shelter during and after the storm—but who now cannot get the help they desperately need.

This week’s looting was predictable. When Hurricane Georges, another potentially catastrophic storm (it spared New Orleans at the last minute) was about to hit in 1998, I foolishly refused to evacuate my Uptown apartment. More than one person said I should evacuate not due to the storm, but because looters would terrorize the city afterward.

Was this week’s looting preventable? Failure to put violent criminals behind bars in peacetime has led to chaos in disaster. New Orleans’ officials had only the remotest prayer on Monday of coordinating police officers with no electronic equipment to rescue survivors while at the same time stopping looting before it descended into wholesale terror. Now, those uncoordinated police officers are themselves victims—according to multiple accounts, dead officers, their bodies marked with gunshot wounds, litter the city.

Armed marauders have now taken over every dry area of a deluged city. They’ve hampered rescue efforts: without wanton looting, there was at least a chance that individual police officers could have distributed food in stores to those who needed it most. And they’ve likely hampered rebuilding efforts down the road: they’ve smashed much of intact Uptown and the French Quarter, which will surely be a pyschological barrier for those who knew that the storm didn’t destroy their homes and their livelihoods—fellow citizens did.

Mayor Ray Nagin and Governor Kathleen Blanco lost whatever fragile authority they ever had over New Orleans early Monday, as the waters still rose. The federal government was unacceptably slow at assessing a rapidly deteriorating situation. Now, no civil authorities can re-assert order in New Orleans. The city must be forcefully demilitarized, even as innocent victims literally starve. What has happened over the past week is an embarrassment to New Orleans—and to America.

Okay, I read the article, where is there a war on blacks explicit or implied? Furthermore, looting is wrong when these a**holes are looting department stores for electronics and nikes. Were not talking about food water and medical supplies here. There will be some apologists who will never accept that this is wrong, say that they need 20 boxes of size 11 nikes and need that tv for survival purposes, but the rest of the world sees this for what it is, opportunistic thievery. I have no problem if these people get pumped out to sea with the rest of the water.

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People, i am a student from buenos aires, here we are very angry with this, excuse my bad english, if someone speak spanish, i like to contact with someone, see what we can do, in my country we want to know, we want to scream the truth of what happen and we want repudiar (keep out) Bush, hijo de puta, nos está matando a todos, no lo queremos acá, no lo queremos allá, no lo queremos en ningún lado!!!!
I think is moment of union, real union
People of Argentina begins activities against the visit of Bush in Mar del Plata, but is not only thing that we can do...i guess
Solidaridad desde Argentina
Abrazos
Marina Rosa de la Fuente

Several of you think you can blame an act of God(or nature if you don't believe) on a politician. You are foolish. It also takes time to move assets into an area that has had a disaster, it just can't be done overnight (I know, I've worked to get it done).

I have family in the area who have lost everything, but their lives. They have to guard their property with arms at this point.

The police won't get involved with someone stealing from a supermarket or restaurant, but a jewelry store, or mall? Come on. Looters are the same gang banging lowlifes that make Algiers district of New Orleans look like somolia every day. My advice to you that are too foolish to understand: If you ever go to Algiers district put your gun on the dash because they will kill you for your car, or shoes just because you aren't their color.

Talk is cheap, why don't you liberals all run down there without guns to Algiers and lend a helping hand right now.

ok, lets say people are looting electronics from supermarkets which are in the middle of the flood.

Now, get out for a bit from your middle-class mentality, and imagine yourself impoverished, and having even less after Katrine has flooded your city.

Of course first thing you would do is searching for basics such like food and water.

Second thing you think is that regardless what the politicians say, you are going to remain impoverished, even more than you were; and when the city is "reconstructed", you're going to have to pay with your lack of money for the food. A DVD set or a TV is a good way to ensure you some basic money to BUY food after the disaster has passed.

But then of course middle-class armchair morality considers this criminal, and those in power promise to shoot them out,...

suddenly theres a taste of not being controlled
no one is tought in high school how to live freely
they're shooting to defend it
suddenly there are questions of America
no one taught the soldiers what they were defending
they think its freedom
they're shooting to defend it.

when it comes down to it though
there are people who have experienced disaster and don't believe that the Army is there to help.
good morning, America.

Does anyone have some photos of the awful scenes in new orleans - the main stream media coverage is somewhat sanitised.......

Bush has declared war on black people in New Orleans
Bush has declared war on black people in New Orleans
Bush has declared war on black people in New Orleans

the most representative headline reguarding the BUSH regime's stance towards a tragic disaster in a %70+ percent black community!!!

BUSH, EXPECT RESISTANCE!!!!!

When are people going to stop talking about looting and talk about what you are willing to do to help these AMERICAN CITIZENS? If you think looting is bad at the most vulnerable stage of these folk’s lives, then what are you doing to help get food and water over to these impacted areas? What about housing, yes they need food and water, but certainly will need residence for a long time. Have you offered up your home? What have you done but post your ignorant comments. I know I do not have the resources other than me giving through the Red Cross with hopes of it getting directly to the people. In the meantime people are dying, children need to be fed. Do you have children? And if so are you concerned about their welfare?? What would you do if you and your family were put into a life or death situation such as this? You need to come down to reality you person of small thinking, this is about survival. Bottom LINE!

Yep, God bless our President, who's finally doing something about the situation in New Orleans. He'll get it done! Watch him unleash some Texas-sized whupass on them! And then he'll get the whole place rebuilt, even better than it was, just like he said Trent Lott would do with the house he lost*! Just look at the job he's done dealing with the upitty inhabitants of Iraq! er... never mind.

*no joke - Spoiled Fratboy really did say that

In the Superdome people are kidnapping raping and killing little children. On the streets people are shooting at one another and fighting over food drop offs. There are dead bodies piling up everywhere. It's a huge and terrible mess. The military has to intervene. They should've enforced the evacuation of the entire city at gunpoint last week.

The violence on the streets isn't some glorious revolution, it isn't constructive anarchy. It is human nature at it's worst. Can anyone come up with a better way to deal with the situation? What should be done?

I think this is one of the only useful functions of the armed services, to domestically adn temporarily create a situation which at least provides people with food shelter and medical attention. Because it is obvious folks are in a situation in which they can't take care of themselves.

The state of New Mexico sent out a search and rescue team on Saturday. Yes, SATURDAY. They arrived just outside the strike zone and waited until the storm had passed. We haven't heard from them, and we don't know if the NG allowed them in to do their jobs.

The point is that YES, there was plenty of warning. Supplis can and should have been dispatched on Saturday and Sunday, BEFORE that storm hit, so that they'd have been on the spot within one or two days, as soon as the roads were clear enough to permit them in.

This goes beyond simple incompetence, IMO, although it's obvious this is a perfect storm of callousness, incompetnece, and the reward for mindless loyalty that characterizes Team Bush.

The NG stopped rescuers, people bringing in bottled water, people with air boats, ideal for rescue in flooded neighborhoods, and even the Red Cross.. Why? So Bush could fly in 4 days later when he was finally finished with his vacation and wanted a photo op to give him credit for the supplies finally being allowed in?

Honestly, people around the world are looking at this country like some sort of third rate, third world banana republic. The way this horror has been handled has proven them right.

Our volunteer fire department in Appalachia preplanned and prepositioned equipment 3 days ahead of when Katrina might have dumped floodwaters on us... fortunately, we didn't need it.

Why was Bush on vacation? Did he think the storm might MISS the USA? Why weren't units of the national guard prepositioned? Why didn't they preplan it days ahead, LIKE WE DID.

And now, days after... why are they worried about shooting looters and NOT taking food and water to stranded people. WHY are they locking people in the convention center? Why are they turning people BACK who are trying to walk out - to HELP THEMSELVES because the government sure as heck ain't.

Is this simple negligence and stupidity... or is it homicide? I think the person who decided to turn back the red cross should be tried for homicide. I think the people who failed to preplan should be tried for negligent homicide. This is the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE that I thought that our government was worse than NOTHING. These people would have been better off if the feds had done NOTHING.

WHAT I WANT THE SURVIVORS OF KATRINA TO KNOW

The American people did not abandon you. We did not see people who were poor or black or both. We saw our brothers and sisters suffering an unimaginable horror and our only thoughts were centered on what we could do to help.

George W. Bush continued his vacation as you were crying for food, water and help. The man who had his administration arrange for food drops and radio drops for the people in Afghanistan did not care enough about you to interrupt his bbqs. He was only spurred to action when the press, many of whom forgot their "objective professionalism" and cried along with you, held his feet to the flames.

Condoleeza Rice attended a performance of Spamalot in NYC and had a nice little shopping trip at Ferragamo's for some shoes while you were watching your lives dissolve, your loved ones die and were praying for help that never arrived. When confronted by a furious woman who wanted to know how she dared shop and attend to her pleasures while hundreds of thousands of the American citizens she was sworn to protect and defend were suffering and dying, Ms. Rice had the woman forcibly removed from the store so she could continue her shopping.

VP Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and the rest of the miserable pack of elitists that make up our government have remained silent to this day.

The head of Homeland Security and the head of FEMA spent so much time giving press conferences on every news show on TV..24/7..where they took turns congratulating each other on the wonderful jobs they were doing they had no time left over to coordinate a sincere effort to rescue you.

Whatever help you have gotten is thanks to the outrage and the cries of the American people and the Press. We love you and hurt for you and will make sure that whatever it takes to help you, rebuild your lives and the cities you love will be done. We, the people, will make sure of it.

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Adding up altogether in thought the information from the Army Times article with the following, there is all too much reason, too rapidly escalating, for the very gravest concern. The first is a post from a live-blog coming out of New Orleans a day or two ago. The second concerns the Red Cross being denied access. The third is a post I entered earlier at the TruthOut forum and is itself of immediate importance, especially in light of the fact that there has been "War" declared upon "looters". I don't know what the answer can be for these people I have mentioned, as well as all the rest, perhaps we need other countries to step in to STOP this???? WHAT???!!!

The Real News
The following is the result of an interview I just conducted via cell phone with a New Orleans citizen stranded at the Convention Center. I don't know what you're hearing in the mainstream media or in the press conferences from the city and state officials, but here is the truth:

"Bigfoot" is a bar manager and DJ on Bourbon Street, and is a local personality and icon in the city. He is a lifelong resident of the city, born and raised. He rode out the storm itself in the Iberville Projects because he knew he would be above any flood waters. Here is his story as told to me moments ago. I took notes while he talked and then I asked some questions:

Three days ago, police and national guard troops told citizens to head toward the Crescent City Connection Bridge to await transportation out of the area. The citizens trekked over to the Convention Center and waited for the buses which they were told would take them to Houston or Alabama or somewhere else, out of this area.

It's been 3 days, and the buses have yet to appear.

Although obviously he has no exact count, he estimates more than 10,000 people are packed into and around and outside the convention center still waiting for the buses. They had no food, no water, and no medicine for the last three days, until today, when the National Guard drove over the bridge above them, and tossed out supplies over the side crashing down to the ground below. Much of the supplies were destroyed from the drop. Many people tried to catch the supplies to protect them before they hit the ground. Some offered to walk all the way around up the bridge and bring the supplies down, but any attempt to approach the police or national guard resulted in weapons being aimed at them.

There are many infants and elderly people among them, as well as many people who were injured jumping out of windows to escape flood water and the like -- all of them in dire straights.

Any attempt to flag down police results in being told to get away at gunpoint. Hour after hour they watch buses pass by filled with people from other areas. Tensions are very high, and there has been at least one murder and several fights. 8 or 9 dead people have been stored in a freezer in the area, and 2 of these dead people are kids.

The people are so desperate that they're doing anything they can think of to impress the authorities enough to bring some buses. These things include standing in single file lines with the eldery in front, women and children next; sweeping up the area and cleaning the windows and anything else that would show the people are not barbarians.

The buses never stop.

Before the supplies were pitched off the bridge today, people had to break into buildings in the area to try to find food and water for their families. There was not enough. This spurred many families to break into cars to try to escape the city. There was no police response to the auto thefts until the mob reached the rich area -- Saulet Condos -- once they tried to get cars from there... well then the whole swat teams began showing up with rifles pointed. Snipers got on the roof and told people to get back.

He reports that the conditions are horrendous. Heat, mosquitoes and utter misery. The smell, he says, is "horrific."

He says it's the slowest mandatory evacuation ever, and he wants to know why they were told to go to the Convention Center area in the first place; furthermore, he reports that many of them with cell phones have contacts willing to come rescue them, but people are not being allowed through to pick them up.

I have "Bigfoot"'s phone number and will gladly give it to any city or state official who would like to tell him how everything is under control.

Addendum: Bigfoot just called to report that "they" (the authorities) are cleaning up the dead bodies at the Convention Center right now.

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Red Cross Kept Out of New Orleans
Homeland Security won't let Red Cross deliver food
Saturday, September 03, 2005

By Ann Rodgers, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

As the National Guard delivered food to the New Orleans convention center yesterday, American Red Cross officials said that federal emergency management authorities would not allow them to do the same.

Other relief agencies say the area is so damaged and dangerous that they doubted they could conduct mass feeding there now.

"The Homeland Security Department has requested and continues to request that the American Red Cross not come back into New Orleans," said Renita Hosler, spokeswoman for the Red Cross.
"Right now access is controlled by the National Guard."

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Of Immediate Importance
Another aspect of this disaster that has not yet been mentioned, much less helped, one of the most dispossessed of the people abandoned in New Orleans is in terrible danger right now and could be inadvertently endangering others through no fault of their own.

If there were at least 100,000 people abandoned there in N.O., that means there were a number of folks suffering from mental illnesses too, people who were on things like prozac and anti-psychotics who suddenly had no medication. These folks would be going "ape-shit"!!! Surely there are some real criminal element types too running rampant, but quite likely most of who is "running rampant" are the mentally ill who besides the awful experiences loaded into their fragile psyches, abandoned and trapped by the flood, then also had to suddenly go without medication!!! They are in terrible danger right now of being shot by Guard troops! Especially the Guard troops just back from Iraq that they have sent in there, as these guys are battle weary, operating on PTSD, all geared up for war and going about locked and loaded, fingers on the triggers, and used to free-fire zones, shooting Iraqis indiscriminately! This part of the N.O. reality has not even been MENTIONED anywhere so far, yet these people are in terrible danger, even just from themselves because of the awful irrationalities they must be suffering from, to say the LEAST, besides now being seen as if they were dangerous criminals, with a shoot first ask questions later danger now happening to them too! Some of them might well BE "dangerous" right now, but not because they are "bad people", because they are "mentally ill" and were abandoned without their medication! They need HELP, not bullets!

Please spread this thought around on any blogs that you are hooked up with! It is quite likely that some of these folks have already been shot. About the only hope for them is in getting the word out until it is public knowledge turning to public outcry.

(-:G

iIam in Australia and i just want to say that i don't accept that the reports of young men 'looting' and committing property crimes etc is a true picture of what must be occurring on the ground. These 'evil' young men don't just spring out of boxes to take advantage of disasters, they are people with families & parents & little brothers & sisters to care about and I realise that the media is not portraying the whole story of some people left in the aftermath, I don't accept that the 'gangs' are taking tvs etc when common sense tells me that they are probably taking food/supplies to give to others. It struck me recently how little time has passed since civil rights changed some of the realities for people of African etc descent in th US, and the mainstream media & the woman politician ( I think she is a senator?) who thinks that shooting to kill using soldiers fresh from Iraq, is an appropriate response, is very sadly mistaken. Unfortunately it does appear to me that the issue of race, and yes, combines with economic status, is playing a part here. The US government is failing to help vulnerable people in a dire situation. It's not looking good internationally either.

GOVERNMENT MASSACRE IN NEW ORLEANS!!!
by Observer Saturday, Sep. 03, 2005 at 8:37 AM

KING GEORGE LEADS GOVERNMENT MASSACRE OF THE POOR AND STARVING

Bush has declared war on New Orleans. His troops are brainwashed they are fighting an insurgency against a starving, desperate underclass!

GREEN LIGHT - "They have M-16s and they're locked and loaded," Governor Kathleen Blanco said of 300 National Guard troops who landed in New Orleans fresh from duty in Iraq. "These TROOPS KNOW HOW TO SHOOT AND KILL, and they are MORE THAN WILLING TO DO SO, and I expect they will."

RACIST URBAN BATTLE - “This place is going to look like LITTLE SOMALIA,” Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard’s Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive citywide security mission from a staging area outside the Louisiana Superdome. “We’re going to go out and take this city back. This will be a COMBAT OPERATION to get this city under control.”

EXTERMINATE THE STARVING - "While some fight the INSURGENCY in the city, others carry on with rescue and evacuation operations."

SOMALIA?! COMBAT OPERATIONS?! INSURGENCY?!!

WAKE UP GODDAMMIT THIS IS A GOVERNMENT MASSACRE!!!!

viewing some media with a sceptical & compassionate eye
by miranda Saturday, Sep. 03, 2005 at 8:01 PM

The press is accurately reporting events in New Orleans. Criminals and Gangs holed out knowing they would have access to ATM machines, drug stores and no police to contend with. If the majority of these youth gangs were black. Then the minority refugee was white. And guess what happens to minorities. Colour aside, the innocent were preyed upon. Wait till the stories come out. German tourists, Canadian, etc all being preyed upon. America has a problem. Cities of .5 million average a murder a week and a rape every second day. Thats not normal. Society is in decay. The USA is being propped up by Japanese procurrement of treasury bonds, by Canadian water and hydro electricity, by British military alliance. Why? because the rest of the free world doesn't want to see the US collapse like 420AD Rome. But it IS on the brink of collapse. Personal Debt and national Debt is out of control. Fix yourselves before it is too late.

I'm singing this song hoping that some did get off the roof to "loot" for their lives.

“Wasting Away Again in Katarinaville” Day 5

Starving in her wake, watching the sun bake,
All of those bodies starting to spoil,
Feeling my roof swing, screaming my lungs sing,
“Smell the decay, hell’s beginning to boil!”

Wasting away again in Katarinaville,
Searching for my lost baby Shaynault
Some people claim that there’s a levee to blame,
but I know it’s America’s fault.

Don’t know the reason, I’m trapped here all season,
With nothing to show but this wound bleeding through,
But it’s a real beauty, an infected cutie,
How long I’ll live I haven’t a clue.

Wasting away again in Katarinaville,
Searching for my lost baby Shaynault
Some people claim that there’s a levee to blame,
but I know it’s America’s fault.

Blew out my rooftop, tore through the sheet-rock,
Severed a vein, cut through to the bone,
But there’s flies in September,
and soon they will render
a maggoty white skin that helps me hang on.

Wasting away again in Katarinaville,
Searching for my lost baby Shaynault
Some people claim that there’s a levee to blame,
but I know it’s America’s fault.
Yes, some people claim, that there’s a levee to blame,
And I know it’s my own Black fault.

Part of the ruling-class media's strategy to excuse the government's criminal treatment of the New Orleans poor is to demonize the victim population. SInce the number of people actually engaging in genuinely anti-social activity like rape and murder is almost certainly tiny, they lump those people together with "looters", meaning practically everybody there, so as to create the image of a large criminal class that deserves to be treated like they have been treating the people of Iraq for years!

Also, given how the U.S. surrogates in Haiti have been using the label "criminal" to set up people opposed to the occupation for murder by their death squads, one should be wary of believing anything the rulers say about their victims in New Orleans as well!

View from abroad

First of all please let me express my highest respect and tribute to all of the Kathrina survivals and to all of the personnel involved in a rescue operations. I am sure thery are doing everithing possible and in many cases almost impossible too.

The situation in New Orleans like it is pressented in media seems to be more than critical. Many efforts are focus on the rescue of the survivals, everyone is villing to help but it seems like nobody knows exactly what is the best way to help and coordination is missing.

When we consider the situation in a complex point of view it seems to be simmilar to an nuklear attak on Ammerican city, as concerns effects taking place at New Orleans during last 2 days.

There are only two major differences:
1. number of casulties is much more lower
The relativly low number of deaths, comparing to a nuklear attack, is a positiv aspect on one side but from the other side it gives a great tension on the supplies required
2. there is no radiation in the area
Missing radiation contamination is definitly a positiv aspect. It makes the rescue operations easier and also the “on the place” supplies can be utilised during the rescue operations.

This more then a very short summary rises a question how to manage the rescue operations in order to be as quick and as effective as possible?

I am more than sure that there exists some sealed emergency plan for proceeding in case of nuklear attack on ammerican homeland. But, based on the madial coverage, I am also sure it is not being implemented and followed. Maybe it wont be a bad idea to unseal this secret envelope?

But let us think about what can be done to provide people in New Orleans with required and desperately needed help.

In a situation like this there shall be three main objectives for a rescue forces:
1. concentrate the survivals to the evacuation centers within the destroyed are
2. supply them with food, water and medical assistance needed
3. evacuate them out of the area of New Orleans

Concentration of the survivals to the evacuation centres will give the rescue forces possibility not only to supply them but and mainly to control the distribution of the supplies and address the right supplies to the right places.

In a situation like it is in New Orleans area now it will also separate the survivals from the outlaws in the streets.
It is easy to say but how can it be done?

First of all it is necessary to locate the survivals within the area. The following measures can help to do it relatively quickly:
- media can instruct the people to mark their positions to be visible from the air
- air survilance planes and hellicopters can also broadcast this instruction in areas without radio or TV coverage
- military survilance sattelites can be redirect to provide infra red scanning of the New Orleans area

When located they can be picked up via helicopters, boats or military convoys.

To manage the supplies the two steps are esential:
- colect all the available “on the place” supplies and centralise them. Due to the outlaws it is the mission for the part of military forces disponnible. Secondary it will attract the attention of the outlaws to this convoys and so help to locate the outlaws and partialy reduce their numbers (for security forces it is easier, from moral point of view, to protrect themselvs and act defensively the act offensively against ammerican citizens)
- Establish an air bridge to provide the supplies directly to the created evacuation centres

Evacuation of the survivals will require huge transport capacities. Due to this fact it have to be done in stages.

Number of disponnible transport means can be multiplied, from time poin of view, by distance traveled. For example with 100 buses you can transport 10000 people to an 200 miles distance or 20000 people to a 100 miles camp during same amount of time.

Based on this it seems to be helpful to create some transfer centres for the evacuation located in a relatively close distance to the destroyed are. These camps shall be located near to the places allowing further transportation using the high capacity transport means such as trains, aiplanes and ships.

Some examples:

Trains can transfer empty 20 or 40 feet containers to a place close to New Orleans. These containers can be used to build a provisory accomodation capacities with regular suppliing by railroad. To this “container towns” the mobile ambulances, hospitals, water claening stations can be deôlivered again by rail and people concentrated there can be also evacuated by rail.

Deployement of one Aircraft Carrier combat group in a front of New Orleans wil provide a following potential:
- several hundreds maybe thousands of marines – very useful units because they will arrive with their own supplies and not increase the tension in supplies
- several hudreds of transport means for evacuation – helicoprers, landing crafts
- accomodation capacities for several thousands of survivals on the ships
- landing are for planes in nearest distance to the city – S3A Vikings can transport supplies to the aircraft carriers in one direction and evacuate the survivals on the way back
- hospital ships – beside the fully equipped ambulances on each ship it can generate madical caúpacity up to a thousand beds
- Hellicopter Assault Ships will be the highest value units – they are equipped with supplies for several month accomodation of the huge number of marines, huge all weather transport potential
- Several Aircraft Carriers Combat Groups are all the time disponnible aroun the homeland coast

This is how the situation looks from a distance based on the limited media coverage. Maybe some of the tips are already being implemented and I believe and hope they are.

I keep my fingers crossed for all the people downthere.

They are not going to shoot people for looting food or anything else for that matter. Thats not the problem anyway, heck I would be taking supplies too if my family was in that situation. The problem is the armed people runnning around doing completely stupid stuff. I like how people tend to ignore the reports of sniping at hospital workers, attempted rapes, starting fires (bad, bad idea, fire spreads), shooting at police (and in one confirmed case, badly wounding one), and doing their absolute best to make a terrible situation worse. If RELIABLE reports come out that troops are shooting people for non-violent looting I will be the first to demand that heads roll. However, let me make this very clear, ANYONE who intentionally uses this situation as an oppourtunity to commit violent acts or willingly and intentionally intereferes with rescue attempts, is no better than a rabid animal and deserves to DIE regardless of race, religion, sex, etc. Anyone who would try to intentionally hurt people in that manner, well the world would be better off without them. Its been said many times, disasters bring out the best and worst in people.

Third rate banana republics do better than the U.S. government has doene in this situation. And remebe rit is the govenment not the people who have fucked things up. Posted elsewhere on this website and reposted on http://www.indybay.org is a list of grass-roots, social justice and direct action type groups that need our help. And remember, in the midst of crises and sea-changes, take time to help yourself as well. Yes, people need help in the worst way, and there is a dire need for anything and everything, and an overwhelming information oversupply (epsecialy if you have the internet), but no, you do have to read everything, but iyou can't help out (both the people and the making fo social change) if you are not in good health and good spirits. And yes, that doesn't mean you can't cry or get angry when the situation warrants.

An d as far as the mainstream media goes, remember if you repeat a lie long enough people will believe it. People are helping each other out. They are not generally acting like the dog-eat-dog me-first the media wants this situation to look like. Things as diverse as group looting, people from all over the country (and the world) opening up their homes to people (Check out Craig's llst New Orleans), several caravans being set up to help people escape and get needed supplies, and food, and even people who don't know any better sending money into the Red Cross are examples of the non-selfish character of most poeple. Don't despair. LIve and Fight on.

Dear Stormtrooper,

Let's see if I have this straight - You believe that violent black gangs are to blame for the lack of relief to stranded hurricane victims and those VBG should be (should have been long ago) jailed or shot. And, basically every single, "looter" is VBG.

Many other articles and posts, including some in this string refute your racism, making my job easier. Furthermore, Bob Marley said it well, "everybody is talking about crime, but tell me, who are the criminals?".

You have stereotyped the people and apologized for their exploiters and repressors. And you advocate more of the same.

Your post is particularly bloodthirsty given the context of this disaster.

Some of your number may wake up. Those who don't will end up on the losing side of history.

The quote I credited Bob Marley with actually goes to Peter Tosh. I believe it's from his piece entitled "Equal Rights" A great song.

The quote I credited Bob Marley with actually goes to Peter Tosh. I believe it's from his piece entitled "Equal Rights", a great song.

It's true. There is a MASSIVE violent criminal class in America that terrorizes other poor people on a daily basis, and the system just lets it happen and leaves neighborhoods to fend for themselves.

I live in an inner city with a large population of poor blacks and whites, and this element is fully present in both populations. In a non "beer-pussy-weed-bling" economy that they have grown up believing is normalcy, they turn intoa Hobbesian nightmare. Because in America, we are all encouraged from birth to compete, compete, compete.

When systematic breakdown of the economy happens in America, you are going to see a war of the poor on the poor.

I think its total BS to even TO care about looting when people are dying. Does Homeland Security mean security for the citizens or is it just for property.?
The whole world's prob is that it cant get a simple concept like Humanity above and beyond property and legal buearucratic INSANITY.
If our leaders werent so fucked , they would not allowed this situation to develop. Once it does develop, everyone of their victims deserves compensation. THERE ISNT ONE THING IN NEW ORLEANS THAT IS NOT OWED TO THOSE CITIZENS THAT WERE LEFT TO DIE!!! PEOPLE FIRST! PROPERTY!?WHO GIVES A FUCK WHEN YR DYING!!!!!

Dear hippy trash detector,
you are failure. u are obviously the net version of the rapists murderers who are preyin on u punkass fed's victims. its people like u with yr 'link theory' that are brain dead. so pat yrself on the back for being such a inhumane sicko.
o yeah, u cant pat yrself on the back cuz yr hands are too busy jackin off and yr head is so far up yr ass that u cant see what yr doing.
ps no one would have raped anyone if the gov wasnot so inept. any gov that cant give its citizens basic needs is a failure.

NOLA looters saving lives:
http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/4423.php

Terrorized by Katrina and Bush's inept response, foreigners join New Orleans poor in looting to survive:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/australians-loot-to-survive/2005/09/04/1125772395898.html

exxon-mobil don't give a damn

you all don't come back youy hear!

Hey HTD,
y u so vulgar when u talk. so yr point is that we got to stop looters and im sayin there wouldnt be looters if the gov was prepared. they werent. u know that. all these folk need the basics. its like back in hunter/gatherer day. u got to forage. thats what most of the people r doin. no ones says a majority r lootin.theres plenty folk who are lookin for food,meds diapers.

all that stuff about intentional acts of sabotage by the gov, its too crazy and illogical. Bush was just totally unprepared. It was nuts. how can anyone deny the complete ineptitude of the rescue op and the state of preparedness.

way i look at it; if I worked at some job and my boss fucked up and i got hurt, he'd owe me some comp. so if im the one paying taxes, voting, jury duty etc basically carryin out my side of the contract, the govs got to carry out their side. protect and serve is the motto.
most of the NO victims were left in the lurch. i dont know why. it was an unexpectedly huge disaster and the gov took too long to respond. u dont agree , but no need be so vulgar.

I don't think Bush et al were unprepared. I have been listening to NOLA police scanners and the troops down there have everything you could ever imagine, from food packs to porta-toilets to blankets to pillows to portable kitchens to water. They have repeatedly said they were ready to come into the city right away (i.e. Tuesday) but were ordered to "wait".

This delay, the earlier lack of evacuations of people without cars (mostly poor blacks), and the resultant massive destruction and loss of life is intentional. It has to be. No other way to explain the refusal of help (including even Forestry planes who were told NOT to enter the city to help put out fires!).

hi hippy, ever thought that your own violent language usage is equally repulsive to me, a women? I don't think that I really want to read peoples comments if they are simply abusive, give some respect to indymedias readers, we all want to read news of some civility with adult perspectives.

sorry mary p, i question whether that kind of response is really appropriate to the kind of society we want to live in around the world. What if those 'stealing' food were children? Should they also be shot? A one strike and you're out policy breeds only more violence and heartlessness, laws should always take into account the reasons behind actions. I don't want anyobody to be shot down, remember what happened in London recently when a Brazilian man was gunned down, wrongly? He never had a chance, it can hardly be said that his murder was justified by the 'threat' of terrorism. I am in Australia and the new legislation we have introduced is even more draconian than your is! Anybody can be removed by the govt f(or repeatedly renewed periods by a magistrate) for interrogation even if they know nothing about terrorist activities, nobody is notified of their whereabouts and they are not allowed to tell their families what happened, when they come back, unless they want a 5 year prison sentence! The use of martial law or other citizens rights eroding laws is a terrible overuse of heavy handed bureaucrats. Nobody deserves to be shot!!!!!!!!

i understand where you're coming from but I question the media, meaning the usual tlargev stations and radio stations etc, and the type of slant they put on stories. I would question any story not just this hurricane situation, i don't believe i am naive for that, neither do i choose to cover my eyes if a person is behaving in a callous or criminal way towards others. Just ask who owns the media companies etc, and try to conceive of other scenarios that may be alternative views of the news stories.

Massacre? I don't believe some of you people. We have people being shot at while trying to SAVE LIVES. I have yet to hear anyone say shoot someone taking food, diapers, med supplies (needed med supplies). But you wanna hurt rescue efforts, you wanna get in the way of saving lives..sorry...the life of innocent citizens is more important than yours. Kill one thug, save dozens of innocent..makes sense, sorry. But mostly I am sorry that the criminals have decided to turm NO into Iraq..insurgents..maybe...terrorist..hell yeah.

i am a anarchist from Youngstown Ohio. Im pretty well known since im one of the few anarchists in the city....yet some stuck up army kid that was with my friend Larry, knowing very well who me and my friends were, comes up to us and says......"yeah, im going to new orleans to shoot to kill looters and the poor."......My friend John thought he was joking and asked," Youre not really going to do that are you?". And with a blank expression replied,"Yes. I am." Then walked away. What the fuck is going on here!?

cat hat mat, you are stuck up, and stuck on yourself - consider the perspective from which you write, "I'm the only anarchist," and "he knew very well who I was," sounds like "yea, they have slain the prophets of the Lord and I alone am left" for crying out loud...knowing you for who you are was probably more than enough to prompt our little army grunt to take the opportunity to ruffle your over-preened feathers, and his blank expression most likely the response to your incapacity to fathom the dark humor every military person engages in before entering a situation where there are elements of personal risk

I have no problem with people grabbing food, clothing within reason (nobody needs a basket full of sneakers or a $500 dollar pair of pumps in a disaster) or even cigarettes, booze or guns after a few days...taking something (anything) that isn't yours is wrong...it may be understandable but somebody lse's hard earned money and labor went into stocking those items in the first place...to justify that by turning a blind eye to the law legitimizes the same lawlessness that would shoot you down with no trial for those very same deeds. A diffence in scale perhaps but imorality is imorality none the less. Wrong is wrong, right is right and fair is fair. If you decide to live in anarchy and padon the animals among us when things go terribly wrong...don't come crying to the rest of us when a different breed of animal preys upon you at a later date.

I thought this ws against the POSSE COMITATUS ACT OF 1878?

That's why we see so many movie scenes where troops are on the Urban streets--to get ready for their inevitable extremism to control, cage, and annihilate the "submissionists (those who submit to God/Allah, and Him alone)."

As usual, the U.S.'s written laws and bylaws are nothing but talk, to impress the public anf foreignors. Their Constitution and regulations are no more than "treaties" the Native Inhabitants ("Indians") experienced--and we see where they are.

We're (Blacks, Hispanics), are on reservations too, they're just called ghettoes, jails and prisons.

And you *let* him!?!

What the fuck is going on here!?

LMAO

whoever the half-wit is that is swearing "resistance" to Bush is has never been in a firefight with a bunch of military folk with m-16's.

resist all you want, you'll just end up like spaghetti.

LMAO

that was tryly an ignorant statement.

But hey, this is Indymedia, so I"m not surprised.

(1.) Tell that to the Viet Cong.

(2.) Expect mutiny. It's happened before.

See:

http://www.nlg.org/mltf/giresistance.html

http://www.altpr.org/apr15/keating.html

lol

you're comparing the combat ability of a trained army to a bunch of spoiled white kids with too much time on their hands? Seriously, that's funny.

So are you hard core VC? LOL

and by the way, if you look at the casualty count in that war, it was HEAVILY in U.S. favor.

and that was a trained army that we smeared. Our army didn't lose that war. Our general public did.

People like you lost the vietnam war for the u.s.

They refused to fight any more. They started wrecking their equipment and killing their officers. Then the war stopped. It wasn't the anti-war demos that stopped the war, or it would have stopped a lot sooner. It was the soldiers themselves. You can't fight a war without troops.

Absolute bullshit. There were sporadic instances of troop rebellion, to characterise the American military as being in a state of mutiny is utterly historically ignorant and reveals what a fucking idiot you are.

Secondly, the Viet cong were wiped out as an effective fighting force in the Tet offensive, a massive military victory for the US that was spun by the US media as a defeat.

Thirdly, as the other guy has pointed out YOU think you're the Viet Cong? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

Oh man, you fucking idiots are priceless.

the facts are the facts, America lost. No, all the troops didn't mutiny. It wasn't necessary. Once the trend started gaining momentum, the powers that be saw the writing on the wall and saved their own necks by throwing in the towel. It worked, too. They were never hung for war crimes as they so richly deserved. Damn shame, that. Let's hope it doesn't happen again. Next time, justice for all.

I always find it hilarious when a lefty calls himself a 'history buff'. That's like a virgin signing up to be a sex therapy councilor. China’s involvement in financing the North, the inability of American commanders to pursue the NVA into rear echelons inside Cambodia because of political considerations, the consistent overwhelming military victories the US forces scored at the tactical level, none of this matters to the ‘history buff’.

America lost the war because some privates fragged a couple of officers. You people are an invincible wall of human stupidity and ignorance.

And now you’re fantasizing about armed revolution in the US. Fucking pathetic.

The Vietnamise people have been fighting invaders continiously for 1,500 years.

America was just another invader to them to be defeated.

If America does not leave Iraq the armed conflict will cross the ocean to America where America will be defeated.

America should be tried before an international trabunal for the crimes it has committed in the world.

Ok, youre an idiot and need to be stoned by weed

I want to know why bush sent black hawk security to kill all the peoplehad the police do all the work that were in new orlands after katrina and put all the bodies on a boat and while the military wached them do it and why the federal gofernmet is sending me viruses and they wont go away so becarefull what you look at on google.